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    Look here Hope, GMs help us more than ND

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    Post by Faraday Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:59 am

    Now look at this...
    Look here Hope, GMs help us more than ND Lolwzx

    now that's amazing, not to say WTF!!!
    cya lol (let the drama begin)


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    Post by sekz Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:35 am

    Lol good one. Kraken was spawned for u losers because server was down due to unknown reasons and you begged us to help you saying you guys down it almost completely. I made that decision after arguing with Chopper. Since server shutdown without prior warning is not players fault, we try our best to accommodate the situation. Now I finally understand what Chopper said that this is wrong and should not be done though I insisted.
    Moving on, if server restarts for whatever reasons, no complains will be entertained. I am a new GM and I have learnt better now not to succumb to pressures from players due to servers fault. This server will still go on without your guild.
    I regret arguing with Chopper telling him it is our fault the server shuts without prior warning. For this, I apologize to GM EvilChopper.
    For the rest of the players here, you guys know how I work. If anyone is not happy with the way I handle things, let Chopper know and I will leave this server.
    Cheers and, good one Hope. If it makes you sleep better doing this, I will resign if the players want me to.
    One last word, Sorry EvilChopper.ummm...make that 2 words.
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    Post by MaDaFaKKa Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:05 am

    i realized jc is rly a child no comment
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    Post by Rere Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:42 am

    zzz u cant blame hope.. blame the one who posted it.. WE nvr say anything zzzzzzzzzzzzz
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    Post by Faraday Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:17 am

    this was no blame of any gm.
    I posted this just to show all of them who say "gm is always on HawK's site/his slave" or "gms always help nd" and "nd abuses bugs" that hope has gotten more help from the gmsthan nd ever can get. This is just hilarious to be jealous or w.e.
    Hope abused bugs, nd abused bugs, hope got gm help, nd got insider information. After all there is no point in blaming nd or hope as guild as never the complete guild but a few persons where responsible for hacks like darksoul e.g.
    (btw the kraken was at 20% when the server restarted w.o. warning, so hope did at least 80% damage already)
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    Post by sekz Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:33 am

    Whether it is GM helping hope or ND9, I dun think it is the issue here. From what is posted here, ie the title"GM helped Hope rebirth" and the ending "now that's amazing, not to say WTF!!!cya lol (let the drama begin)", is nothing more than a lame campaign to blame it on this server as corrupt.
    I just would like to make things clear, I AM THE ONE who argued, insisted, begged and even convince GM EvilChopper that this is servers fault and not the players fault thus, FINAL SHADOW should fix this. I still remembered who PMed me about this this issue and spoke reasons with me.
    In my undertaking as a GM of this server, I tried my best to make it fair and fun for everyone. Whatever is posted here, affects my integrity and the name of the server as a whole which shouldn't be the case.
    I do not see the point in this post apart from the fact it is intended to show that the GM(ie sekz) is one corrupted idiot who helped Hope to rebirthed(as per the title of this thread). And to safeguard the name and integrity of this server being one of the most stable and fair server, I request not "LET THE DRAMA BEGIN" but rather, let us solve this issue once and for all.
    There is no point in pulling ND into this as the screenshot and thread title does not reflect that at the slightest hint.
    I suggest, instead of "DRAMA", to the players who love this server, to please decide whether I am still fit to be a GM here or whether I should leave.
    Thanks and way to go JustCleric.
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    Post by Faraday Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:01 am

    sekz wrote:[...]is nothing more than a lame campaign to blame it on this server as corrupt.

    Nope it isn't. Well no one can deny that gms might have helped some players so far due to fairness.
    But what do you think, and now please be honest, would happen, if such a screenshot would prove nd getting a "land kraken"? Hope members, including JustCleric ofc, would start a big drama about that questioning this server and would keep on shouting and so on. So, somehow some hope(yes i know hope doesnt exist anymore) members feel disadvantaged. Posts like this one show them that they arent. Actually, the gm staff helped hope when they were working for 4 hours on kraken and the server went spontaneously down. Which was of course a help to rebirth. of course hope would've been done within the next hour with kraken and they worked a lot of time at this boss, so they earned their rebirth(that's out of question).

    sekz wrote:
    I just would like to make things clear, I AM THE ONE who argued, insisted, begged and even convince GM EvilChopper that this is servers fault and not the players fault thus, FINAL SHADOW should fix this.

    I agree with you that it wasnt the player's fault and that they shouldnt waste another 5 hours on this boss, if they almost completed it. I think what's missing is a clear line. Why was this event private? Why wasn't it public that you gave this guild a boss back, which they almost completed? I mean this would've been a lot easier. Or announcing some server resets already one day before here in the forum or sth.
    Anyway e.g. when nd did kraken and the server resetted they didnt get anything back. Seeing it from an objective point of view that was unfair, though nd was maybe at 80-90% of kraken.
    As I said before, I dont want to question you as gm, as you doing a good job, but I'm tired of people telling me gms prefer nd or w.e. This server should be fair and therefore there should be a clear line(give things back after reset or not...)

    sekz wrote:
    I do not see the point in this post apart from the fact it is intended to show that the GM(ie sekz) is one corrupted idiot who helped Hope to rebirthed(as per the title of this thread).

    I just think the fairest thing to do is making gm actions public. This is what I did with this screenshot. Hope thit one successful kraken run before, no doubt this run would've been successful too. It was a nice gesture of you but it should've been public, thats everything I request.

    sekz wrote:
    There is no point in pulling ND into this as the screenshot and thread title does not reflect that at the slightest hint.

    Let's say it like this: hope is/was the more aggressive guild attacking nd members. This screenshot shows that hope members should think twice about what they say about nd. Maybe you don't know it but inside hope many ppl always talked about gms prefering nd.

    sekz wrote:
    I suggest, instead of "DRAMA", to the players who love this server, to please decide whether I am still fit to be a GM here or whether I should leave.

    I prefered you always as the "better" gm.

    sekz wrote:JustCleric.

    Let's say I'm not really JC, rather a good friend of her...
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    Post by MaDaFaKKa Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:28 am

    i rly would know who are u so couze 1 of the first ppl to say gms help nd,if my brain still not fukked and i rememeber good, was jc so plz just stop this shiet is very ridiculus
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    Post by sekz Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:34 am

    Understood. Maybe the title should change a little. Maybe to something like "Look here Hope, GMs help us more than ND". Instead of "GM helped Hope to rebirth...." and ending the post with "now that's amazing, not to say WTF!!!cya lol (let the drama begin)". coz i swear never once, did ND ever complained, bitched or whined about GMs helping Hope more.
    So it would be a better for this screenshots to appear in your own guild forum as a reminder to your guild mates of our action to make this a fairer server.
    But since its blown to this proportion, I seriously feel that other rival guild member will now starts to question my action. Let me remind you again, NEVER once DID ND come complaining to me about us helping Hope at all.
    You have just successfully opened a pandora box and leaves more reasons for rival guild members to force me into leaving this server, instead of reminding your own guild members what I have done for them in order to be fair, since server restarting itself is not technically players fault.
    If I could turn back time, I would not have done the same. If I do stay on as a GM, I will not make this my responsibilty. There are numerous time when server restarts itself without us knowing. That could be many reasons. I would have stuck to what GM EvilChoper always say to me, "is there a proof? Are there any screenshots? Have you got your arse covered so that it won't bite you back? Humans will always complain and whine bro, but if you help them, risking your reputation, you might just be surpise how, due to their selfishness, it will screw you up big time and risk messing up this server".
    Having said all that, from my point of view, whether I stay or not will depends still on how much trust the rest of the server has on me as a GM.
    As to your claims this is just to tell your guild mates we help you more than ND or the same, it could have been done with a less damaging ways towards my reputation, integrity and name as the GM of this server as I have explained on the first 2 paragraphs.
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    Post by Illuzion Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:05 am

    wow .... that pathetic .... gms watch and u blame them for helping??
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    Post by Faraday Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:22 am

    MaDaFaKKa wrote:i rly would know who are u so couze 1 of the first ppl to say gms help nd,if my brain still not fukked and i rememeber good, was jc so plz just stop this shiet is very ridiculus

    As JC doesnt care much about FS she gave me some shiet including this forum account, her screenshots and so on. (Still I have not her login for FS...). I was juz to lazy to create a forum account on my own here.
    I tell you i stand very close to her and therefore I know most of the guild things.
    As someone who plays not that much on this server I can be more objective and I can say that hope overreacts in any case.
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    Post by xPencil Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:49 am

    Faragay,

    1st. you think Navy will say crap on this post, in your dreams sweetheart! Truth be told this just proves nothing really [GM] watching you kill Kraken, don't see a problem here.

    2nd. Navy did this the proper way, you lol no comment. Cool
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    Post by Faraday Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:53 am

    xPencil wrote:Truth be told this just proves nothing really [GM] watching you kill Kraken, don't see a problem here.

    Did you ever see a kraken stuck at the port?
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    Post by Faye Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:55 am

    Faraday wrote:
    MaDaFaKKa wrote:i rly would know who are u so couze 1 of the first ppl to say gms help nd,if my brain still not fukked and i rememeber good, was jc so plz just stop this shiet is very ridiculus

    As JC doesnt care much about FS she gave me some shiet including this forum account, her screenshots and so on. (Still I have not her login for FS...). I was juz to lazy to create a forum account on my own here.
    I tell you i stand very close to her and therefore I know most of the guild things.
    As someone who plays not that much on this server I can be more objective and I can say that hope overreacts in any case.

    This is the most stupid excuse i every heard jc -_- You get everyone in trouble now try to get yourself out of it? Seriously, noone is stupid enough to believe you would give forum acc + screenshotfolder to someone else >.>



    As for xPencil, dun start hope vs nd drama again pls, this was the second kraken kill, we got 7 ppl for rebirth, we did the first one completly on our own Wink
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    Post by xPencil Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:00 am

    Faraday wrote:
    xPencil wrote:Truth be told this just proves nothing really [GM] watching you kill Kraken, don't see a problem here.

    Did you ever see a kraken stuck at the port?

    no comment, used to enjoy fighting with people from hope, cheese tarts. But now you people not even worth my time.

    bloody noobs Evil or Very Mad
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    Post by Faraday Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:08 am

    Faye wrote:

    This is the most stupid excuse i every heard jc -_- You get everyone in trouble now try to get yourself out of it? Seriously, noone is stupid enough to believe you would give forum acc + screenshotfolder to someone else >.>

    When I said I'm a close friend to her, I meant it. Means she gave me her extern HD, where her files are at, so I dont need to download and install and run all patches. This folder contained of course many screenshots.
    And as she told me about fights with pencil and that she is tired of them, I proposed to taker her account over...
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    Post by xPencil Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:10 am

    Faye wrote:
    Faraday wrote:
    MaDaFaKKa wrote:i rly would know who are u so couze 1 of the first ppl to say gms help nd,if my brain still not fukked and i rememeber good, was jc so plz just stop this shiet is very ridiculus

    As JC doesnt care much about FS she gave me some shiet including this forum account, her screenshots and so on. (Still I have not her login for FS...). I was juz to lazy to create a forum account on my own here.
    I tell you i stand very close to her and therefore I know most of the guild things.
    As someone who plays not that much on this server I can be more objective and I can say that hope overreacts in any case.

    This is the most stupid excuse i every heard jc -_- You get everyone in trouble now try to get yourself out of it? Seriously, noone is stupid enough to believe you would give forum acc + screenshotfolder to someone else >.>



    As for xPencil, dun start hope vs nd drama again pls, this was the second kraken kill, we got 7 ppl for rebirth, we did the first one completly on our own Wink

    JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THE POST NAME!! WHO DOES THE HOPE VS NAVY SHIT, WHO? SHUT THE FUCK UP.
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    Post by Faraday Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:17 am

    xPencil wrote:


    JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THE POST NAME!! WHO DOES THE HOPE VS NAVY SHIT, WHO? SHUT THE FUCK UP.

    It seems you lack in gaining information. This topic was proposed by sekz as the old topic was a bit missleading.
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    Post by sekz Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:24 am

    Anyway, lets not turn this into a flame. I am just waiting for instruction from GM EvilChopper to see if there are anyone who wants me to leave.
    Btw, JC, asking you to change the title was a sarcasm. But its ok....doesn't really matter. We shall wait and see the outcome.
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    Post by EvilBanshee Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:31 am

    I don't see any reason for you to leave.
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    Post by Jonas2 Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:42 am

    sekz wrote:JC

    I now made this account so you guys dont think I'm Anna. She is busy with school work right now, she wouldn't have the time to post things in forums...
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    Post by Faye Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:12 am

    Jonas2 wrote:
    sekz wrote:JC

    I now made this account so you guys dont think I'm Anna. She is busy with school work right now, she wouldn't have the time to post things in forums...

    Sure thats why jc was just online ingame... Seriously, you did shiet, now stand by it and stop lieing.. noone will believe you anyway so stop it....
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    Post by Illuzion Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:21 pm

    ok its clear that this new post name is a cover up to hide you are jc ... because you dont want the hassle of the matter brought on ur shoulders ... i say in the screen post that this is a stunt to cause massive drama and i guess it worked but in a bad way.... we try to keep the drama in trashtalk ... and while im at it Sekz dont leave ..=( i will be sad
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    Post by Jonas2 Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:01 pm

    Illuzion wrote:ok its clear that this new post name is a cover up to hide you are jc ...

    I offered Anna to give you guys my phone number so you can call me. Not my fault that no one wanted that lol. So dont try to impersonate me with someone who I not am.
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    Post by n0aX Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:35 am

    sekz is good.

    erm sounds wrong.. well right too gG.
    He did one mistake imo, he should've spawned Kraken at Exact location and shouldnt be lazy with spawning near land..

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